
Last month I talked about safety on social media and what worries me for authors. This month we are talking about online groups.
On different platforms there are author/reader groups. These can be both a blessing and a curse to readers. Both Facebook and Goodreads have group as to other platforms. I mainly use these two platforms so will focus on them.
Goodreads Groups
I will start with Goodreads. Goodreads is a place where there are many author and reader groups. It’s easy to start a group. I have joined quite a few groups at different times and the ones I have enjoyed most have been multi author groups. While several of the groups are not a active now I did find them enjoyable. Many others I joined but was never active. A couple I am on are still very active but I personally am not participating.
Love Inspired Historical was an active group. The reason was authors interacted with readers and we felt and still feel like friends. There were often fun games, including writing fun stories. The one where you write a sentence or two and then the next one takes over. They were fun stories that could end up almost anywhere. Once a month the LIH authors with books out would take part in a Q&A with the group. We even had a readers retreat when I was visiting the USA. The only reason it isn’t active now is the Line ended.
The groups I joined and either didn’t participate or left were often author groups where the posts were mostly hard sell. There was the “tell us a little about yourself” when you joined but hardly anyone would comment including the owners of the group and it was just to push the author or authors books. I have to say I didn’t stay. Some groups start out active with author/reader participation, but it then just dwindles away.
Lets now talk Facebook groups.
The most important thing for both Authors and Readers to check on any group you join is if it the group is public or private. If the group is public I personally would not join. I made the mistake a couple years ago and got so much spam that was traced back to this group. A public group you don’t have to join to see who the members are or read the posts. These people can’t post but they can garner a lot of information.
Private groups have Administrators who moderate the group. The best groups will have questions to answer before you can join which weed out spammers. Some may still get through but most won’t answer all the questions. You also know that your information is much safer. I have had an owner say they want the group to have more visibility by being public. It doesn’t work like that. If you search for a type of group both public and private show up.
Reader Groups
There are quite a few Facebook groups for readers. Some have a large membership like Avid Readers of Christian Fiction which is a group for both author and readers. When I am looking for a book set in a certain place or genre I will ask there. Much easier than doing a google search. We also know all books have to be Christian Fiction which is a help with so many authors writing both Christian and Sweet or Clean books now. On the downside there are so many members that I often miss posts and can’t find the post I was looking for. I also get overwhelmed by all the posts. They also have some rules on what you can and can’t ask about books.
Then there are groups like ACW which is also readers and writers and shares the posts from the blog. It has a weekend book question and has a lot of writer articles. These are often of interest to both readers and writers. The group also limits self promotion which readers are grateful for.
A couple of my favourite groups are run by authors. Sharlene Maclaren & Friends is one of my favourites. There are fun post, as well as devotional posts. We can post prayer requests and know it will stay in the group. At times there have been fun games. It is a safe place with no hard sell. It is a real community that cares for each other.
There are also groups that are run by several authors for different genres, areas etc. Dienece Darling wrote on some groups here.
On the other hand I have joined groups where most posts are buy my book or info on their book. There may be an image telling the genre and all the tropes, where to buy but no real information just buy my book. Sometimes you don’t know what the group will be like till you join.
Author Takeovers
Some groups will have what is called an author take over. It maybe a week or a day. The author will host for the time period with several posts. Some groups only have Author takeovers. The better author take overs are those who have posts that actively engage readers. With games, fun questions, and activities that engage a reader. Most important is replying to comments. They will talk about their books but mostly in one post and will have links in the final post.
The takeovers I don’t enjoy is where every post is a hard sell. They may add a question but mostly its about trying to get sales. Most have a give away and where its an entry for commenting on posts if great. Where I get frustrated is to enter you need to follow me on all my social media and join my newsletter. Or you will get a free book if you join my newsletter. These I tend to not do unless I want to. By leaving the links on the last post you will get those who really want to follow you. It is so easy to join a list to get an entry then unsubscribe soon as the week is over.
The takeout is readers like to be involved. We like to feel that authors want to get to know us and want to engage with us and not see us just as a cash cow. If you foster relationships with readers, we can be your most loyal supporters and biggest assets.
If you have suggestions for Dear Reader subjects comment below.
Hi Jenny, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and concerns. 100% agree re. public groups. We think about what we write in blog post comments, for example, because we know what we write is available for anyone to see if they look hard enough and find the blog post.
Social media groups are a different ball game and we all know there are scammers out there who are looking to rip people off via various methods. The less personal information they can tap into, the better.
Private groups are not 100% secure, either. If a group member is hacked and their account is taken over, the private group info is accessible without other group members knowing there’s an issue. The Admins can block anonymous posting in groups, be careful in who they accept into their group etc. but nothing is foolproof or 100% secure. A sad reality we can’t afford to ignore.
Thanks for commenting and its so true. I got messages from a strange account and know others did too. I tested the group by having my secondary account join and sure enough within days got the same messages. I knew the group they came from but was told it couldn’t be their group but proved it with the other account. (that account is for playing games and has almost no friends). I had a couple friends hacked last year (hacked not cloned or taken down by FB) who couldn’t get the account back and verified via an outside source. I then contacted several of our joint groups to ask the admins to remove them. FB often doesn’t delete stolen or hacked accounts will go as far as to say they are not dangerous so we need to be wary.
I never have gotten the hang of Goodreads groups or friends. It was my go-to whenever I used to search for book reviews in a physical shop before I started buying books on Amazon. I don’t check the reviews there as much anymore, but I never could work out how to use it outside that. And to be honest, I decided I didn’t want to spend the time learning either. I was happy to use the reviews, and let that be it.
I love the Facebook groups that allow member participation. Not just because I’m an author but because the groups that have so many rules are often kinda boring as a reader.
I’m in a regency group run by Erica Vetsch and some others. I usually enjoy those posts (there is a new moderator there lately who keeps straying off topic, but hopefully that changes). Authors mention if they’ve got a new book or one on sale. People share funny memes which are Regency related or gush about a book they’ve read. The main moderators usually share historical facts or lovely pictures specific for each day of the week. The rules are clear and basic: what you post should be regency related, clean and/or Christian, and positive. And that’s it. Most members tend to follow these really well and we have a lot of fun.
But when a group has too many complicated rules and no one is ever allowed to post, it’s just frustrating.
Thanks for bringing up the topic, Jenny!
Hi Dienece, I use to use Shelfari and then moved to Goodreads. It was before many of the groups at FB and it was much better set up. The LIH group would have started around 15 years ago. I met around a dozen members 12 years ago. They were there for me when I was really sick and then when mum died. but now I use it mostly for keeping track of what I read. FB has very much taken over but there are still some very active groups there. Its also somewhere I was able to verify friends had been hacked at FB. as we are friends there also.
On FB I agree there are some groups where the rules are complicated. Like not being able to ask the Christian content or if xxx is a Christian author. Asking level of faith element shouldn’t be an issue. its not like I am saying its not enough or too much. I also think asking if an author is writing Christian fiction (when they have both general market and CF) should be ok especially when you see some of the book promoted that are clearly no longer CF. I also think its valid to ask if an author is a Christian writer considering in worship music one of the songs that did well in the charts last year was “Change in your name” by Nouri who is a practicing Muslim. This song has been embrassed by many Christians who would have no idea its not a Christian song. I want to know the books are being written by Christians